Subject	in this case the buyer never seen pictures of the
Posted by	AzHeat on March 19, 2007 at 9:59 AM
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In Reply To	any product is worth what the buyer agrees posted by ARA300ZX on March 19, 2007 at 09:55 AM
Message	product before buying which is the buyers fault for not asking. On a wear item like a clutch, I would ask for pictures. Maybe the seller didn't reveal how it was driven and misrepresented it.
Follow Ups	Well i bought this clutch from a member on here..... - Kobe2be9 21:57:08 03/18/07 The puck is used up. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 22:05:05 03/18/07 that leaves 5 more, right? (n/m) - SactoTodd 22:18:39 03/18/07 ummm - bluetorch motorsports 22:49:53 03/18/07 yo dats whack (n/m) - Guapo 22:11:51 03/18/07 Wow - Insomniac (VA) 22:19:27 03/18/07 My contact information is listed in all of my profiles.... - BOOZTD 3 08:28:34 03/19/07 agreed. i never have a problem contacting you (n/m) - ARA300ZX 08:36:10 03/19/07 Ah man. That's messed up. You need to tell us who he is. (n/m) - bbug 22:24:47 03/18/07 I was waitin for that ?.....Its BOOZTD 3....Andy Turpen---> - Kobe2be9 22:28:21 03/18/07 I almost bought upgraded heads from him. - WAGGZ 22:37:47 03/18/07 Wow, that's odd... - OrlandoTT 22:48:32 03/18/07 2nd. I also find that to be out of the ordinary - nemo1080 23:30:55 03/18/07 Like i stated in what i wrote, him and i were cool and we - Kobe2be9 23:49:26 03/18/07 I have pads for a segmented flywheel if interested .. (n/m) - The Devils Z 23:07:27 03/18/07 I'd really like to know what Booztd has to say - SeedyROM 00:42:14 03/19/07 Yea Seedy, thats why it took me so long to post this...... - Kobe2be9 00:59:54 03/19/07 You didn't ask for pictures before buying? (n/m) - AzHeat 00:42:18 03/19/07 No i didnt, and thats where im saying i'm not asking - Kobe2be9 00:56:49 03/19/07 Eh, I was expecting the clutch to be in much worse shape - doug8867 07:21:13 03/19/07 LOL, it's worn down to the rivets! (n/m) - 300zx90 (CO) 07:31:42 03/19/07 The rivets show when the clutch is brand new, not because - doug8867 07:34:42 03/19/07 Umm... when new, the rivets don't have score marks from - 300zx90 (CO) 07:43:45 03/19/07 Ahh, missed that..definitely not good to be worn that low:-) (n/m) - doug8867 07:57:58 03/19/07 Go to his house and break his legs. (n/m) - dpwarrior8 07:28:36 03/19/07 I am not sure how to respond from this, so..... - BOOZTD 3 08:22:56 03/19/07 This happened nearly a year ago?? - 300zx90 (CO) 08:41:12 03/19/07 Like I said neither of us measured the clutch - BOOZTD 3 08:45:43 03/19/07 You have a good rep around here.. - zleepertt(MD) 08:51:34 03/19/07 its a year later - ARA300ZX 08:55:35 03/19/07 BootZTD is not disputing the condition of the clutch - AzHeat 10:01:40 03/19/07 Read the story i said something to him the day i got it (n/m) - Kobe2be9 11:00:51 03/19/07 Re: You have a good rep around here.. - BOOZTD 3 08:59:44 03/19/07 You worked a deal out on parts site unseen. Put yourself - AzHeat 09:55:40 03/19/07 Actually like i said in my story, the day i recieved - Kobe2be9 11:00:10 03/19/07 No measuring required, visual inspection tells you it's shot - 300zx90 (CO) 10:55:23 03/19/07 I contacted him right when my shop told me it was there and - Kobe2be9 11:03:22 03/19/07 Sorry, I missed that part in your opening post. - 300zx90 (CO) 11:08:35 03/19/07 Its cool (n/m) - Kobe2be9 11:20:36 03/19/07 Dont desperately defend yourself, both I and the shop - Kobe2be9 10:57:06 03/19/07 in light of this >> - ztunerz 11:06:43 03/19/07 Seems like a pretty simple answer really. - spddracer 12:03:20 03/19/07 amennnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (n/m) - Kobe2be9 13:19:13 03/19/07 Well - i don't think you can assume its useless - ztunerz 10:59:15 03/19/07 Worn down to rivets = useless (n/m) - 300zx90 (CO) 11:00:43 03/19/07 fair enough >> - ztunerz 11:03:51 03/19/07 Saved emails and pictures = CYA for both the buyer - AzHeat 11:10:39 03/19/07 Because he knew i knew little about this stuff....... - Kobe2be9 11:05:42 03/19/07 That's pretty crappy... - OrlandoTT 09:31:03 03/19/07 You have no defense thats why. Would you honestly pay $870 - AzHeat 09:51:52 03/19/07 any product is worth what the buyer agrees - ARA300ZX 09:55:48 03/19/07 in this case the buyer never seen pictures of the - AzHeat 09:59:32 03/19/07 the buyer is responsible to ask for pics - ARA300ZX 10:04:38 03/19/07 I always offer to send pics if i am selling an - AzHeat 10:17:38 03/19/07 The seller is also reponsible for integrity - s3trios 10:30:51 03/19/07 agreed (n/m) - ARA300ZX 10:52:24 03/19/07 I was very adament about how the car was driven... - BOOZTD 3 11:25:24 03/19/07 So he knew you drag raced with it... often. Ok, so how does - 300zx90 (CO) 12:27:53 03/19/07 If the clutch worked so great then why didn't you keep - BFastRBLast (Ca) 12:41:20 03/19/07 Re: If the clutch worked so great then why didn't you keep - bluetorch motorsports 20:43:21 03/19/07 Give him his money back - s3trios 12:43:17 03/19/07 2nd GIVE HIM HIS MONEY BACK (n/m) - AzHeat 12:55:38 03/19/07 3rd GIVE HIM HIS MONEY BACK (n/m) - AntiHero 13:25:55 03/19/07 right,but he promised a useable product and shipped trash (n/m) - AntiHero 11:34:02 03/19/07 Why are you bringing this up now? - Supratt85 08:57:25 03/19/07 2 sides to every story - s3trios 09:31:36 03/19/07 Analogy is way off.... - BOOZTD 3 11:29:44 03/19/07 Going by your analogy. If you order a burrito - AzHeat 11:53:12 03/19/07 HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA, now thats funny shit, thanks for the laugh! (n/m) - Kobe2be9 13:24:43 03/19/07 Re: Going by your analogy. If you order a burrito - Supratt85 22:52:40 03/19/07 Re: Analogy is way off.... - 300zx90 (CO) 12:33:12 03/19/07 Supratt.....read the whole story.....i brought it up to him - Kobe2be9 11:10:35 03/19/07 isn't that clutch/flywheel combo about $900 new? (n/m) - ZEngineer 09:29:40 03/19/07 WOWWWW.....even better, not only did i get screwed on the - Kobe2be9 11:12:11 03/19/07 You can't blame Andy for that. - BigTDogg (MA) 11:23:25 03/19/07 2nd its not his fault u rushed into it (n/m) - ARA300ZX 12:26:04 03/19/07 that's YOUR fault - zboost(NoVA) 15:06:54 03/19/07 You're right, and if you read this whole thread..... - Kobe2be9 15:17:02 03/19/07 SOOO SCANDELOUS (correction) (n/m) - Kobe2be9 15:19:01 03/19/07 that combo certainly isnt 900 new... (n/m) - BOOZTD 3 11:27:50 03/19/07 RPS flywheel=around $400-425 - eriksu9 11:51:10 03/19/07 Worn out clutch combo isn't worth $870 either. (n/m) - AzHeat 12:18:06 03/19/07 AGREED!!!!!!!! Perhaps I should have said "BRAND NEW" parts - eriksu9 12:38:17 03/19/07 Got both mine new in July for $873 shipped from SpecialtyZ. - doug8867 14:19:53 03/19/07 You are totally right about the research, but.... - Kobe2be9 15:04:36 03/19/07 I sold mine used for 500 - Kick'n 14:42:17 03/19/07 588 (clutch) + 425(fw) = $1013. give him his money back. (n/m) - AntiHero 11:32:20 03/19/07 Re: Well i bought this clutch from a member on here..... - ExpoZed 15:13:05 03/19/07 2nd. (n/m) - BFastRBLast (Ca) 16:37:37 03/19/07 well now we know how he is funding his rb swap... (n/m) - 300zx16 17:00:31 03/19/07 Re: Well i bought this clutch from a member on here..... - srimes101 17:36:04 03/19/07
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